Patrick Henry on Liberty

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined…The Honorable Gentleman who presides told us, that to prevent abuses in our government, we will assemble in Convention, recall our delegated powers, and punish our servants for abusing the trust reposed to them. Oh, Sir, we should have fine times indeed, if to punish tyrants, it were only necessary to assemble the people! Your arms wherewith you could defend yourselves are gone…Did you ever read of any revolution in any nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all? A standing army we shall have also, to execute the execrable commands of tyranny: And how are you to punish them? Will you order them to be punished? Who shall obey these orders?
Patrick Henry

More on Leninist

If a Leninist wanted to promote communism they would start a group of Anti-communist that way they end up as the leader of their opposition. If they wanted to promote zionism they would tout anti-zionism to the same end and for the same purpose. to be the leader of their enemy. Pretty simple, but very effective, all they have to do is lie about what they are up to. When you consider the possible scenarios you had better factor in lying, it makes things much more complicated, but that is the way it is.

Alfons v911t

Open Letter to 9/11 Truthers

I very much suspect we are running into Leninist techniques ie infiltrate and lead your opposition, to destroy them. Lenin's main tenet is about coming to power, he was able to take over entire countries with his methods, with very little use of force, and we need to study, and implement these methods because they work. Tsun Tszu says we need to know our enemy, and know ourselves we do not know either one. Our enemy is adept at framing the argument into a dialectic, these dialecticians have been at it for centuries, Bertrand Russel, the Tavistock Institute, the Fabians etc. Simply exposing the Truth is not a solution. Our enemy has been at it for decades, they have a head start. Read up on Lenin, Marx, Trotsky, I am telling you if we want to succeed you will have understand what we are up against.
If you havenot listened to this, you really need to, there are some clues here:
http://www.v911t.org/M/EdwardGriffin1.mp3 ---- http://www.v911t.org/M/EdwardGriffin2.mp3

One thing you do not do is say Jew, or Zionist. That is the debate "they" want you to engage in. We need to expose the criminals, their race, religion, or ideology is not relevant really. Just because it is true does not mean you want to say it. What you are up against are people with a plan. If we don't know what that plan is we are sunk. The plan I speak of was developed by some of the smartest, most insidious, and cunning people that have ever walked the face of the earth, a formidable enemy to say the least. You had better do yourhomework.

By means of the Truth we shall wage Peace,
Alfons v911t

Lead me, follow me, or get the hell out of my way!

Quotes

"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.": Thomas Jefferson

="Under the influence of politicians, masses of people tend to ascribe the responsibility for wars to those who wield power at any given time. In World War I it was the munitions industrialists; in World War II it was the psychopathic generals who were said to be guilty. This is passing the buck.

The responsibility for wars falls solely upon the shoulders of these same masses of people, for they have all the necessary means to avert war in their own hands. In part by their apathy, in part by their passivity, and in part actively, these same masses of people make possible the catastrophes under which they themselves suffer more than anyone else. To stress this guilt on the part of the masses of people, to hold them solely responsible, means to take them seriously. On the other hand, to commiserate masses of people as victims, means to treat them as small, helpless children. The former is the attitude held by genuine freedom fighters; the latter that attitude held by power-thirsty politicians." : Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism

="It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificually induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear." : General Douglas MacArthur, Speech, May 15, 1951

Good 911 Truth Video

Twin Towers: Demolished For Effect
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDKa1Q1GwTQ

CNN's Glenn Beck on 9-11 controversy

Glenn Beck Popular Mechanics lie a on this one.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2007/10/23/beck.911.controversy.cnn

Fwd: From toss the kitty free mp3

From toss the kitty free mp3 http://tossthekitty.com/main.htm
<http://tossthekitty.com/main.htm>

911 was inside job <http://tossthekitty.com/911WasAnInsideJob.mp3>
world trade center seven came falling down it's clearly controlled
demolition
they packed it with thermite and called a count-down go google this so
called fiction

people need to wake up fast and stop this mad oppression
they'll bring in the draft and then you won't laugh they'll drive you to
depression

Why did all three come crashing down .... without any reason
is all of this just some damned crack-down ... we that treason
http://tossthekitty.com/main.htm <http://tossthekitty.com/main.htm>

Looks like Mike Cook is moving for dismissal of charges

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF KENTUCKY
NORTHERN DIVISION AT COVINGTON
CRIMINAL ACTION NO. 06-66 (WOB)
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PLAINTIFF
VS. ORDER
MICHAEL COOK DEFENDANT
This matter is before the court upon the Report and
Recommendation of the United States Magistrate Judge (Doc. #43),
and there being no objections filed thereto, and the court being
advised,
IT IS ORDERED that the Report and Recommendation of the
Magistrate Judge be, and it is, hereby adopted as the findings of
fact and conclusions of law of the court; and that the motion of
the United States to allow involuntary administration of drugs to
defendant (Doc. #25) be, and is hereby, DENIED.
This 22 nd day of October, 2007.

The trial judge, Bertelsman, adopted the magistrate's recommendation
and denied the the forced medication hearing!!! Now we file to
dismiss
the case and that is probably what will happen. I have requested
numerous
times verbally and over a week ago in writing that my lawyer provide
me with a copy of the 4246 report and I still don't have it. I've
been
out for almost a month now and I first requested it when I was still
at
Butner, in August... must have some good stuff in it if they don't
want
me to see it :-)
It's too early to really celebrate, but this is one step closer to
being done with this battle. The war goes on...
Thanks for your support and concern,
Mike
P.S. Loose Change Final Cut release date: 11/11/07!

What is your take on this antibiotic resistant staff?

Yes I suspect the most likely culprit is the over use/abuse/misuse of
antibiotics. Still I think we are under attack, and the attackers
have been spraying chemicals (chem trails) on us, and have access to
some very nasty bugs, and maybe it is paranoid, but like a friend of
mine once said, "If you are not paranoid in this day and age, you are
just not paying attention" It is unfortunate, but one of the best
ways to declare martial law, and or suspension of elections would be
to cause a pandemic, since the perps could prepare with an antidote
just as they did just before the anthrax attacks. This is a primary
concern I have, and for good reason. The perps of 911, need to retain
power to stay out of court and possible to stay out of jail or off
the gallows. Motive, means, and opportunity seem to fit like a glove,
to produce such a scenario, not to mention the NWO/PNAC agenda et al.
Anyways keeping an eye on biology is prudent in my humble opinion.
After all the perps have displayed a propensity to use biologicals
for political purpose, and have even published their views on
genetically specific biological weapons. "...advanced forms of
biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform
biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful
tool."
http://www.freedomisforeverybody.org/PNAC.php

Alfons v911t

> Been a paramedic for 10 1/2 years and have hauled many pts with
MRSA. Have never caught it and yes it does seem to be increasing!
The thing that bothers me is that we have had it around a long time.
And mostly it is in nursing homes and hospitals. I think it is
another government scare tactic. And also the over use of antibiotics
is the main cause of it. People are given antibiotics even when they
dont need them or they only take half of a scrip which strengthens
the bugs. We are still on the highway to hell bent on wiping
ourselves out. My take only! DFR
>
> Alfons <alfons@> wrote: What is your take on this
antibiotic resistant staff? Anyone?

Blackwater Shadow Army in Iraq/Video/I think it's a MUST WATCH

http://www.mail-archive.com/cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com/msg09236.html

Blackwater Shadow Army in Iraq - Jeremy Scahillm (youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAibI5ahMGs

Jeremy reads an excerpt from his book and describes Fallujah and
Blackwater's 4.

Looking for information

What is your take on this antibiotic resistant staff? Anyone?

THE US GOVERNMENT HAS LOST IT'S !@#$ING MIND!

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

THE US GOVERNMENT HAS LOST IT'S !@#$ING MIND!
Posted Oct 22, 2007 07:22 AM PST
Category: DICTATORSHIP

This link goes to a page at eBay where they are selling a green colored
laser pointer.
I bought one.

Because I like the color green!

I just received the EMPTY BOX and THIS LETTER FROM US CUSTOMS informing
me that my green laser pointer has been CONFISCATED, for an as yet
unspecified violation of US law.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Quotes

"Apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand" : Bodie Thoene

="By far the most dangerous foe we have to fight is apathy - indifference from whatever cause, not from a lack of knowledge, but from carelessness, from absorption in other pursuits, from a contempt bred of self satisfaction" : William Osler (Canadian Physician, 1849-1919)

="My generation's apathy. I'm disgusted with it. I'm disgusted with my own apathy too, for being spineless and not always standing up against racism, sexism and all those other -isms the counterculture has been whinning about for years." : Kurt Cobain (American Musician and Singer of the grunge rock band Nirvana. 1967-1994)

=There is suffering in life, and there are defeats. No one can avoid them. But it's better to lose some of the battles in the struggles for your dreams than to be defeated without ever knowing what you're fighting for: Paulo Coelho:

=...when we finally know we are dying, and all other sentient beings are dying with us, we start to have a burning, almost heartbreaking sense of the fragility and preciousness of each moment and each being, and from this can grow a deep, clear, limitless compassion for all being.: Sogyal Rinpoche

="Our job this day is to become part of the answer to the world's immense and protracted suffering rather than continuing our ancient task of being part of the difficulty.": Hugh Prather - Author, minister

British Police's New Spy Drone

Must Watch this: British Police's New Spy Drone
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/09/british-polices.html

ABC is slandering my friend, John O'Neill

ABC is slandering my friend, John O'Neill
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2817783

UK protest singer sounds good

HELLO!, I am Guitar Jake Zee, and would like to invite you to checkthese ground-breakin' songs at
www.myspace.com/jakezeeand
ALSO
www.addasong.com/zennaman
ROCK ON FROM THE SOUTH-WEST U.K.BEST PROTEST SINGER 2007!"The next Bob Dylan, but without the slurring" (BILLY BRAGG),

Loose Change Final Cut Release Date Announced

Loose Change Final Cut Release Date Announced Internet phenomenon to arrive November 11th, features all-new material and interviews
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/221007_loose_change.htm

Pilots For 9/11 Truth Welcomes Three More Patriots...

It is my pleasure to introduce and welcome three more patriots speaking out and questioning the government story regarding 9/11. Qualifications as follows:

Scott Burley
747-400 First Officer
United Airlines
22 Years

Bill Credle
Aviation Maintenance Technician
American Airlines
17 Years

Tony Ryan
Warrant Officer RAAF (ret)
Former Royal Australian Air Force
Served between 18thFeb1958 and 21March1981
Flight Engineer on C130A, C130E, C130H and B707
Cathay Pacific Airways
L1011 Tristar Flight Engineer, B747-200, B747-300 and B747-200F
10000+ TT FE
Australian Private Pilot Licence
300 hours on C150, C152, C172, C172RG and Piper Archer aircraft


Welcome Gentlemen. Its a honor to have you as part of our team.

For full list of members, please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

For forum discussion, please visit http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=9654

Rob Balsamo
Co-Founder
Pilotsfor911truth.org

__________________________________________________
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http://mail.yahoo.com It is my pleasure to introduce and welcome three more patriots speaking out and questioning the government story regarding 9/11. Qualifications as follows:

Scott Burley
747-400 First Officer
United Airlines
22 Years

Bill Credle
Aviation Maintenance Technician
American Airlines
17 Years

Tony Ryan
Warrant Officer RAAF (ret)
Former Royal Australian Air Force
Served between 18thFeb1958 and 21March1981
Flight Engineer on C130A, C130E, C130H and B707
Cathay Pacific Airways
L1011 Tristar Flight Engineer, B747-200, B747-300 and B747-200F
10000+ TT FE
Australian Private Pilot Licence
300 hours on C150, C152, C172, C172RG and Piper Archer aircraft


Welcome Gentlemen. Its a honor to have you as part of our team.

For full list of members, please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html

For forum discussion, please visit http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?showtopic=9654

Rob Balsamo
Co-Founder
Pilotsfor911truth.org

Have to listen to this: Bill Maher gets 9/11 Truthed live.

AUDIO: Bill Maher, all 9/11 conspiracy hell broke loose. — Radio Your Way, Sat Oct 20 13:33
http://www.apfn.net/pogo38/L009I071020-313E.MP3
http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html
9/11 - the big cover-up? — By Peter Tatchell, Fri Oct 19 16:08
WW II Vet's article article for Veterans, Civs on 9-11 Truth — "No Baloney" Tony, Fri Oct 19 20:48
a look into the past S-11 news report — 911review.org, Fri Oct 19 19:25
Internet privacy threatened -look into the past — 911review.org, Fri Oct 19 19:28
bush did it 9-11 photos — 911review.org, Fri Oct 19 19:34
Debunking Rudy's 9/11 Persona — Association of Firefighters, Fri Oct 19 17:03
10/19/07 C-SPAN: FRC SPEAKER: Dr. Ron Paul — APFN, Fri Oct 19 14:10

Ad Hominem (Personal Attack)

(1) William Dembski argues that modern biology supports the idea that there is an intelligent designer who created life.
(2) Dembski would say that because he’s religious. Therefore:(3) Modern biology doesn’t support intelligent design.

This argument rejects the view that intelligent design is supported by modern science based on a remark about the person advancing the view, not by engaging with modern biology. It ignores the argument, focusing only on the arguer; it is therefore a fallacious argument ad hominem.

Ad Hominem arguments attack the source of an argument - not anything within the argument itself.

Here is another ad hominem arguement:
The WTC towers collapsed at freefall velocity and therefore it must have been a controlled demolition.
Rebuttal:
Experts say the WTC towers did not collapse at freefall, and this person is not an expert on Controlled Demolition or physics, therefore the towers did not collapse due to Controlled Demolition.